Stephenie Meyer: Twilight & Other

[Rocket]

I started reading Alex Rider when I was 8. I underdtand books, and what gives a good impression or not. I've read lots of them. i know twilight is not a good book. It never will be. But that doesnt stop me from being obsessed.. What are idiotic pbsessions? I think I have a heralthy obsession. I dont go to every twilight fan party I know about. I'm not watching nw moon on the day it comes out, due to study reasons. An idiotic obsesser would sacrifice their learning brcause of Twilight. I wouldnt. Im a very academic person. i dont talk alot. I think Robert is not academic, but very reflecting. he wished that he would study harder when he was youger. DOnt know HOW this conversation led to RP

[MadCatta]

Oh no, I've always been a reading freak... but a weird amount of time I was away from mainstream. I never liked Enid Blyton (except for Shadow the Sheep-Dog, a book my mum was given - maybe from her, my grandad was EB's dentist... - and yeah, I still read that... xD) and Roald Dahl... Nah, not so much. Dick King-Smith was ok, but I always liked Jaqueline Wilson (ok, overly mainstream) and Harry Potter (same) but then also what my brother read... I got into Eragon when it first came out - when I was 10, then - and Bartimaeus  early on.. 9... erm, then I guess anything... Terry Pratchet and stuff.

...I'm seeing New Moon on the 21st. I feel like such a hypocrit... but a group of my friends are going so I thought I'd join them xD.

Age issue? Well, I've got an author friend, Tabitha Suzuma (greatest author ever -  if you like books about depressed people) and she has this issue with age-banding.. they were trying to age-band her books. This would mean her books are designed for late teens, which would have deterred me I guess from reading them at 12. Ok, fine, maybe right now I don't understand everything (I think I do, but whatever) but still, I've loved those books for years now. fAnd also, what about dyslexics and eople with mental disabilities, or even those who just don't read much? It's humiliating to have to be seen with a book for someone 5 or 6 years younger than you... I mean, even now i get embarrassed if I'm buying a book that was written for those younger than me, mainly because I've spent most of my life on older stuff, because I used to have a bit of a large ego.. (a real one, not my fake one xD).

[hydramate]

I think it's sort of like, Twilight touched something - the idea of an amazing boy being only interested in the less-than-amazing, smarter-than-most-of-her-peers, uncoordinated, not-amazingly-pretty, feels-the-odd-one-out girl, combined with a vague essence of the old Mr Darcy, Prince Charming syndrome - that old (and increasingly lost) gentleman-ly-ness. But it wasnt, by any means, a GOOD book, story, or example of writing, and it didnt deal with things very well. But it just, as I say, touched something. Which made any girl who'd ever felt that way (and thousands who hadnt, but were sure that if they had, Edward would, like, totally have loved them!) really like the series.

When I read this, I totally agreed. That is what made me like Twilight in the first place. Edward just has this aura that made me feel like he was the definition of great boyfriend. The problem is that this feeling is at it's best in the first book. And this is also where emotional maturity comes into play: I knew and understood that he was a book character. To want to find someone who actually exists like him is going to far.
Also, on the subject of age, the last book has Bella and Edward going the whole way. She even becomes pregnant and has the baby. Excuse me if, while I think the first part is entirely natural for characters their age, I wouldn't feel too happy if my 11 year old or so daughter read that.
Alex Rider's age classification is a different matter to Twilight's anyway. There is nothing in Alex Rider that would make it unreadable by those younger or older than the classification.

[arrowsong]

I read Eragon when it first came out too MC.. the difference being I was 13 or 14, haha!! And I read AR for the first time about then too (Scorpia had just come out... I dont know when that was). Before that I read a lot of science fiction... a LOT... because the first friend I made after leaving primary (where I had ONE friend) was (uh, is) a total sci-fi NUT loool (HA, she's also my AR-obsessed friend! lol). Anyway so I went from the Famous Five to Star Wars spin offs (I could give any SW encyclopaedia a run for it's money... and Ive seen the movies ONCE! LOL) - but NOW I understand that what I loved about THAT was, the fantasy elements - ie. the Jedi... the Force... awesomeness. And so I loooooooved Eragon when I read it.... and other fantasy... the rest is history..

*SIGHS* I know, I mean I really really know, that you guys are uber intelligent and mature readers and that, and I respect you all heaps and wouldn't ever talk down to you or anything - most of the time I forget there's much age difference on these boards at all... And this is making me feel like a right ass, being this stubborn! =/ I was reading pretty involved, heavy adult books when I was 14. And I know that I understood it all and everything, I mean a book that's one of my favourite books now - still!! - for it's fantastic story and characters and humour but also intelligence and wit and shrewd philosophical and societal observations - I read for the first time when I was like 15. Sure, some of it might have gone over my head, but mostly I just had to think hard, get my mind around it, and - my level came up to meet it. I have got more out of it with each rereadng, but not any startling revelations or new understandings.

But that's where twilight is different... because as we've all said, it's not a great book really, it's not an intellectual thing you can understand. There's something indefinable about it that makes it so special. And there's an (equally indefinable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) element of that something that just means more, or means something at all, to people who have been through 5 years of high school and all the people, relationships, education, interaction, and just general development that that brings...

I give up... it's not like it matters anyway. (LMAO, I just thought 'This is what they mean when they say teenagers know everything - they dont understand they're not old enough to get some things...' and then I realised that Im not a teenager any more, so I CAN SAY THAT heh heh!!!)

Hydra: Whole-heartedly agree. I dont really like to mention that side of it, because I feel like people would assume that's what I mean when I say twilight shouldnt be read by younger kids. And it definitely is part of it... you can argue that it's not all that graphic - but just exposure to that is a HUGE consideration for - as you say - tweenagers... I remember a girl in my 11-12 y/os Sunday School class thing I took with a friend telling me that her friends had read the books and she'd read the first two and they were going to see the movie and I floundered so incoherently for a reaction - because I wanted her to read, but - I couldnt believe it! That they were reading that!

[AlexRider:Afterwards]

*peeps in probably interrupting a conversation* I liked the twilight books.

...before the movie came out and every girl in the world became obsessed with it.  I also never thought of it as girly and all lovey-dovey either.  I guess guys interpret it completely different than girls.  Haha probably because we aren't trying to rape the main vampire hahaha

*quietly peeps out*

[Rocket]

Hahahah! Robs back! Watch a remember me trailer. Google it. its really good!!!

[arrowsong]

*Moves conversation here from the Will Alex Die thread*

Bingo just said (making me laugh) that S Meyer said she wouldnt make Bella pregnant/have a child, and then proceeded to do so. (LOL!) How did this go down? when did she say it? HAHA that's SO funny!!!!!!!! How on earth did she manage to do that - like, contradict her own plot plans or something?!?!?!?!

[blondebaka]

Well she wrote it in her FAQ, but, suprise suprise, that little question has dissapeared all of the sudden. it was before breaking dawn, like maybe in either the twilight or new moon FAQ, I cant remember now...

MC, i see that age band different to everyone else, instead of 'this book is for people between 10 and 12 and if anyone older reads it as weird', I see it as "Kids at the age of 10-12 are capable of reading this". Based on the writing  style and what the stories about. obviously they arent going to put a age band of 8 or something on a book thats a story about a rape victim or something no matter how simply its written

Like movie ratings, it might say MA15+,  but i watched them alot younger than 15. (I have older siblings) Its just that they dont think younger than that can handle or watch it based on the contents (sexual refrences, offensive language, bllod and gore).

So I think the Twilight books should have a recomended age on them, makes no difference to older readers, but im sure parents would appreciate it. Like Hydra said, but I would also be worried about the fact that some children arnt old enough to understand that edward IS a fictional character, an although all us women would love a boyfriend like him, it will never happen.

I was actually talking about this with my friend the other day. the girl in the family she is staying with wants to read twilight 'because everyone else is" but the most she reads is manga and childrens books like shelby and goosebumbs, and if she ever tries reading a book beyond that, its too hard for her and never finishes it. And her mum is considering letting her read twilight?!?! The girl cant even understand that her grandmother might die anytime soon!! and they have told her bluntly whats going to happen to her.
I really dont think kids should be reading it unless they are more like the younger members on here. But otherwise it should be limited to early/mid-teens at least!!

I did love twilight, but, I have a short temper and am not the most patient person in my family. So if one more person says edward cullen is hot..... Rob, fine, that perfectly understandable. Edward, no just...no. In my opinion its why most people think twilight fans are coo coo crazy. Its why I dont like it anymore, because I dont want to be seen with the people that somehow think its logical for a FICTIONAL character to be "hot" and drool over them. I know a few people that did it before the movie was in announced to be made. Personality traits are ok to drool over though i wont think your mad then...

Oh im rambling, ill shut up now

Did anyone thats watched the movie think that roasalie looked a bit... funny?

[Rocket]

SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS
my review:
OMG I watched new moon last night. It was so good. Especially with the bit at the end, where Edward asks bella to marry him!!! I couldn't believe that they had to end it thhere! WHY????The wolf pack were absolutely hilarious. I loved them. The bit where they were in Emily's house was perfect. I actually cried while watching the break up scene and while Robward was taking out the picture from her scrapbook and when the months were going by. The Volturi scene was good as well. Alec wasn't as good looking as I thought he would be Micheal Sheen was really good as Aro, but Felix was not funny. In the book he's funny.

[Kaurageous_rocks]

CONTINNUING ON WITH THE SPOILER

no they ruined it
edward was meant to ask bella at the end of the next book
everyone i know said that it ruined it

[bingo]

*covers ears and starts humming* I haven't seen it yet so i will be counting on the Arrow to make sure you guys stay on topic with this until i can post my own review!

About the whole age thing: I've already said my opinion, but i couldn't agree more with Baka. Kids will always read it anyway, but it should still have an age limit on it.

(although i kind of disagree about calling fictional characters 'hot' ... As Arrow so aptly put it: Boys In Books Are Just Better. xD)

[Rocket]

CONTINNUING ON WITH THE SPOILER

no they ruined it
edward was meant to ask bella at the end of the next book
everyone i know said that it ruined it

It didn't. In the end of NM, Edward does ask her

[Rayray. M]

CONTINNUING ON WITH THE SPOILER

no they ruined it
edward was meant to ask bella at the end of the next book
everyone i know said that it ruined it

It didn't. In the end of NM, Edward does ask her

Listen to rocket k_r she's right. He dopes ask her at the end of NM and first she thinks its a joke thewn she says no.

[Rocket]

Listen to the twilight elders of the board 

[Rayray. M]

Listen to the twilight elders of the board 

Twilight Elders... I like that name. 
My New Moon Review Warning Contains spoilers!!
Ok I belive New Moon wqas better than Twqilight movie in many ways. The feel of the movie is better than Twilight ... the scenery a bit less bleak, the vampires less pale more beautiful. There's even some sun in the Italy scenes! I loved the birthday mpasrty scene, the room looked nice, but not as i imagined it (i.e it looked to me like Alice had been lazy decorating), the acting was good thouigh, especially Jackson when he tries to attack Bella. The one thing i hated was 'Bella's "visions" of Edward. They werent really doing it for me. For a teenager, this guy seems awfully lifeless, like even he can't believe he's doing this, he looked to me like a bad quality cardboard cut-out. The volturi were amazing in the flim, they seemed incredibly simnister to me and Dakota Fanning was excellent as Jane. I cant say i expected that littlew fight scene but i loved it anyway. New Moon was darker and funnier than Twilight. The characters were (mostly) relatable and dynamic, and the action riveting. In my opinion Kirsten Stwarts acting was alto better than it was in Twilight, i felt the way she potraed bellas feeling for Jacob was good. Chris Weitz did an awesome job directing and in my opinion followed the story line more closely, I woudn't oppose to him directing Breaking Dawn.