Power of Five against Alex Rider

[meggy]

It is!!
A teenage spy is like totaly ummm would you say normal? people always make stories about spies but the po5 its just original and differant!!

[Shadow dragon]

It would be really interesting to see both of the series after Snakehead comes out. Snakehead has got a lot of planning in it and it looks at more personal side of Alex Rider.

[meggy]

both the series iam not clear on what you ment by that?

I know i think snakehead should be an improvement

[Shadow dragon]

I meant to compare them. Both of them must Snakehead would even both by cancelling the disappointment in the Ark Angel.

[Rainbowstar]

I really don't think you can compare the two anyways.  PO5 is a story that has been working on, and has been on his mind for 20+ years.  Alex Rider isn't.  You can't compare whether the plot is better thought out and stuff, cause the plot of po5 is a lot longer in the making than Alex Rider

[Shadow dragon]

comparing the two means that we are comparing fiction with supernatural. Thsi is not about just the plot and storylines of the books, but about the themes and presentation of ideas as well.

[Rainbowstar]

no but you were also discussing how well thought out the plot was, and that's what i'm saying you can't compare.  you can't compare 20+ years to 2 years per book

[Horowitz Bell]

Quite agreeable, but still the plots of the books don't add up, they are not linked, they are just random. If AR is taking shape now, PO5 has already gotten at its interval and is near the end. Everything is planned and no random events are there.

They are not as linked with the power of five series I agree, but if you look at it more i n depth, there are more links than first noticed.

Also Rainbowstar, I agree that the plot for AR isn't as well planned as Power of 5, but you are right that you cannot entirely compare planning when one has been planned for nearly 10 times the amount of the other.

[Shadow dragon]

no but you were also discussing how well thought out the plot was, and that's what i'm saying you can't compare.  you can't compare 20+ years to 2 years per book

I agree the plot for the Power of Five was planned about 20 years ago, but in order for the book to be shaped into the modern day supernaturalist, it had to be updated with most recent technological developments and the places would have been changed as well so he had to adjust the storyline according to that. In Alex Rider, whereas, the plot can developed easily because you can just build it up as you go along. It doesn't have to match your planning and plot you had 20 years ago.

[Rainbowstar]

have you red the original? the plot is the same.  the updated technology and stuff used changes nothing about the real plot going on.  So he did not have to adjust the storyline to that.  And the places are not changed.

The way I see it, Alex rider is something that he needs to keep up with, he needs to pen out one every year and a half or something, because of it's fame.  This is not the case with PO5, because PO5 is something he wrote 20 years ago, that for some reason he decided to breathe life into again now that he's famous, because it is a story worth telling, and before he wasn't famous enough to be able to tell it.  It takes less effort to pen down the new copies, because he can start from his old copies.  Basically, it's like alex rider are like his 3rd drafts that get published, and po5 is like the 5th or 6th draft.  And that's why i think you can't really compare the thought process behind the two.

Asides from that it's jsut a different genre, you either prefer the one or the other.  and there's not much discussion possible about this because it's a personal view point

[Shadow dragon]

Perhaps you are right, I am still not convinced though. Why is it then that some people like PO5 more than Alex Rider, keeping the fact aside that they have a different genre. Even if PO5 is 20 years old it still holds the excitement of thousands of fans, whereas, Alex Rider lost quite a lot of its excitement in Ark Angel because it simply wasn't convincing enough. Perhaps we should look at other debates in the future as well.

[Rainbowstar]

you cannot keep the fact that it is a different genre aside.  That is the main reason why someone would prefer Alex Rider or the Power Of 5, compared to that, all the rest is detail.  And if you look at how highly expected snakehead is, i doubt that AR would have lost a lot of fans over Ark Angel.  I've read the discussions about Ark Angel and to me it wasn't as unrealistic as it seems to others.  Going into space is not such a taboo as some people seem to make it out

[dasblitz]

i agree, even AH said himself that he was only going to make alex do things that he knew were phyiscally possible, and im sure people can go into space with out training, because they wouldnt need to control the space ship

[Shadow dragon]

I am not arguing that AR is unbelievably unrealistic. I can't deny this as well that Snakehead has been eagerly awaited by thousands of fans, including me. All I am saying is that AR can be very off limits sometimes.

[Horowitz Bell]

I like both of them, but in different ways, to be honest. PO5 is something to let my  imagination go wild, whilst AR is something to keep me in track with the real world, even if it is fiction.