Politics and Philosophy

[Cormac111]

Continued from here --> http://anthonyhorowitz.com/msgboard/index.php/topic,2129.1125.html

Democrat or Republican?
Obama or Clinton?
Fine Gael or Fianna F?il?
Labour or the other main political party in Britain?
Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist or Seekh or Jew?
Atheist or believer or unsure?
Blair or Brown?

Say it here!

[kingofjapan]

If you really want me to answer those 

Republican
Neither, but if I had to chose it would be Obama
I'm not sure I understand this one
Well, I'm American, so that doesn't apply to me.
Christian - Catholic
Believer then I guess
Prime Ministers? I preferred Blair. He was a big supporter of America's causes, at least, the ones that I support. Though Brown hasn't been in office long enough for me to judge him.

 

[Rainbowstar]

i just heard on the news that the war in iraq has already cost the american government 3 quadrillion dollars (that's 12 zeros!)  It's more than any other war has ever cost, including Vietnam that lasted for 12 years.  I think that's appalling, never ever should there be this much money spent on a war.  just think of how much good they could have done for the american education system, or social security!

And btw king...I think that when it comes to politics, i'm completely the opposite of you, hehe.  The only thing i agree with is Obama, but then I would be a democrat if i were american, so I'd want him to actually win!  And I disliked Blair because he supported the American issues a bit too much...he was like a puppy dog running after it's boss sometimes...

[kingofjapan]

Really? Three quadrillion? Hm, I'll have to look into that. Of course, I could just stand up, walk over three cubicles and ask my friend, but of course that would be too much for me. 

That's interesting about the politics. Truthfully, I'm going to vote for Obama if he is the Democratic primary (which it looks like he might, but things can change) because I don't support McCain's stand on the issues. But seriously speaking, I will flee the country if Hilary wins the election.

I've heard London is nice this time of year. 

[Rainbowstar]

Come to belgium, it's great here!  good education, good social security,...perfect

[Cormac111]

If I was American and English and Irish...

Democrat
Obama
Fine Gael
Christian - Catholic(At the moment)
Unsure
Don't know but I never really liked Blair

[valaarien]

Democrat or Republican? I'm a moderate with conservative leanings. So basically I'm an independent who tends to vote Republican.
Obama or Clinton? Obama. I'm not sure who I'd vote for if Obama gets the nomination. I would never vote for her either. I believe that Hillary would never win the actual election against McCain. Not because she's a woman but because I don't think she's capable of reuniting the Democratic party after the split in the primaries.

Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist or Seekh or Jew? Christian - Catholic
Atheist or believer or unsure? Believer
Blair or Brown? I think it's to early to tell.

[Rainbowstar]

Said by Toast on Fire in the psychologist's corner topic

If it weren't a rule, then we wouldn't care, and we'd all end up homosexual, and we wouldn't be able to have babies

Excuse me, but I have some trouble with reading that line.
No way is there ever any chance of everyone becoming homosexual just if there wasn't a rule made about it.  Like I said, homosexuality was widely accepted in Greek and Roman cultures, and in a lot of other ancient cultures as well.  And yet, we are living proof that even though there wasn't a rule against homosexuality, they still made babies.

Homosexuality exists amongst monkeys as well, they still continue living on.  If they do get extinct it's because we go around killing them or destroying their habitat.

It's like saying that if there wasn't a rule against it, suddenly everyone would start taking drugs!  It's a very short minded thing to say

[G0D_Shadow]

republican
neither
wtf
wtf
christian
believer

[Maiar]

Democrat or Republican?-  at the risk of sounding ignorant, I don't know the difference...but I'm more left wing than right...
Obama or Clinton?- erm...  Obama (Knowing me, I've contradicted saying I'm more left wing there...)
Fine Gael or Fianna F?il?-    again, I'm going to seem ignorant because I don't understand
Labour or Conservative?-  Labour out of those two, but I'm more likely to vote Liberal Democrat at the moment
Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist or Seekh or Jew?-  I'm an agnostic Christian
Atheist or believer or unsure?-  AGnostic, so unsure. But I believe more than I don't believe.
Blair or Brown?-    Blair made a mess by trying to keep people happy, and by trying to stay friends with the major powers...Brown hasn't done enough for me to say...I don't know 

[kingofjapan]

This is continued from Alex Bond's and Shadow Dragon's discussion in Talents and Abilties:

First off, there is a major difference between fighting and violence. Quite frankly, it's like the difference between revenge and justice.

Fighting can be many things: attacking, defending, talking violently. Violence however, is more of a physical manifestation that occures due to another person's actions. That person choses to be violent, whereas you may not have a choice to fight. You can't be forced into violence, but you can be forced into fighting. Besides, you could fight verbally, where there wold be no violence in that action. Granted, someone may describe the language as 'violent' but that is their opinion, and not an actual definition.

If you want a definition then here you go:

Violence:
1. swift and intense force
2. rough or injurious physical force, action, or treatment
3. an unjust or unwarranted exertion of force or power, as against rights or laws

Fighting (I'm using fight because it provided a more appropriate definition)
1. a battle or combat.
2. any contest or struggle 
3. an angry argument or disagreement 
4. a bout or contest.


You see? The defintion of fighting does not include violence. And you don't fight to become violence.

Also, when you (AB) said to Shadow Dragon that he was learning for "opponents he'll never have" you don't know that for sure. Then you continued to deny he would have opponents when you said "you mean sparring partners. ha ha!" You can't interpret what he is saying or put words in his mouth. If he says he has opponents (he even said it more than once) then you can't keep denying it. You once said to Claudi (something along the lines of) "you can't make my decisions for me". Well, you certainly can't make Shadow Dragon's either.

[Shadow dragon]

Thank you for your support kingofjapan. Now, continuing to what you said I would add some more facts about the certain rules of combat called the jings. Technically there are 85 of them, but I would focus on the main three now.

The first jing is called the positive jing. It is being applied when you are attacking someone during a combat. This normally involves skill as well as violence and a drive to fight. This represents the yin force of the body.

The second jing is called the negative jing. This is being applied when you are retreating from a fight. It involves skill as much as wits. There is very less violence in this way. This shows the Yang forces in the body.

The third jing is called the neutral jing. In this jing, you are doing nothing. This is the most difficult to master as it involves a lot of self control, patience, and good timing. This involves waiting for the right before attacking and striking as peacefully as possible. Techniques such as dislocation, temporary paralyses are included. As the name suggests, this is a balanced way of fighting and is the base of every fighting rule.

[toast-on-fire]

Said by Toast on Fire in the psychologist's corner topic

If it weren't a rule, then we wouldn't care, and we'd all end up homosexual, and we wouldn't be able to have babies

Excuse me, but I have some trouble with reading that line.
No way is there ever any chance of everyone becoming homosexual just if there wasn't a rule made about it.  Like I said, homosexuality was widely accepted in Greek and Roman cultures, and in a lot of other ancient cultures as well.  And yet, we are living proof that even though there wasn't a rule against homosexuality, they still made babies.

Homosexuality exists amongst monkeys as well, they still continue living on.  If they do get extinct it's because we go around killing them or destroying their habitat.

It's like saying that if there wasn't a rule against it, suddenly everyone would start taking drugs!  It's a very short minded thing to say

I'm very sorry about what i said, it was very close-minded. I really don't know the answer, and I admit that. After the discussion in psychology,I have been reading up a little bit on the internet and in the bible about what the bible does say about homosexuality, and for the most part, the Bible doesn't say much. It says that man and woman were meant to be together, joined as one in spirit. It says that prostitution is bad, for either sex. It says that having relationships with those of the same sex are 'unnatural'. And it says that men/women should not have sex with children of the same sex or opposite sex.  But other than that, it really doesn't say a whole lot. One verse in the new testament that does confront homosexuality front-on says that 'homosexual offenders will not obtain God's kingdom'. But I'm not sure if that means men who abuse other men sexually, or if it means men who have sex with other men. so really, i don't quite know where to go on that subject. I have nothing against homosexuality, or people who are homosexual themselves. But I've always been a bit confused about the topic, because my whole life i've just been told that it's a sin, and i've pretty much followed it blindly. I'm going to do a bit more reading, and see where that takes me.

[G0D_Shadow]

Actually scientist proved men can have babies

[Hopeful]

Democrat or Republican?- Republican
Obama or Clinton?- I would never vote for either one of them
Fine Gael or Fianna F?il?- Don't know
Labour or the other main political party in Britain?- Don't know
Christian or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist or Seekh or Jew?- Nondenominational Christian
Atheist or believer or unsure?- Beliver
Blair or Brown?- Blair