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« on: September 27, 2006, 10:06:59 PM »

What was yours? Mine would defently have to be when Alex is talking to Yassen on Air Force 1. I think it was quite interesting and you find out alot in that short moment.
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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2006, 11:16:49 AM »

Uh... no! Lol I hated that part! I mean, yeah it was great that we found out all this crap about Alex, the world's most famous Marty-Stu, but Yassen died! And he was, like, the only interesting character to read about! Where's the justice in that?! Huh?!

Lol my favourite part was 'Insanity and Biscuits' lol that was so crack up!
"Why do you work for this lunatic?"
"He pays me."
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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 06:37:47 PM »

Yeah. It was sad Yassen died but it was still quite interesting to me. What do the rest of you like as your favotite part?
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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 08:37:56 PM »

my favorite part was hijiacking AFO, it was cool, lol. and the part where Alex was in the game. it'd be interesting to see how they make that into a film if ES is turned into a film . . .
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2006, 01:40:12 AM »

Yeah I reckon Eagle Strike would make the best film out of all of them! I wonder who would play 'Cossack' lol they'd have to be ginge because of bloody Damian Lewis
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2006, 07:56:08 PM »

I liked the very first scene where John saved Yassen ... and then when the scar is "revealed" in the dying scene (thinking about that still makes me so sad).
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« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2006, 12:05:06 AM »

I know! But it was so obvious that Cossack was Yassen... that's what made it so cute! And it's so ironic how Yassen ended up dying anyway! ALEX SHOULD HAVE SACRIFICED HIMSELF FOR YASSEN! *sob*
Also, you know how in the beginning it says that Hunter would die another day on another mission... John Rider died in a plane crash which had nothing to do with a mission... ooooh! plothole!
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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 01:21:41 PM »

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John Rider died in a plane crash which had nothing to do with a mission... ooooh! plothole!


Now that you mention it ... I knew there was something weird about this statement but I couldn't telll exactly what.
Strange AH wouldn't have thought of that.
Or maybe it was to keep all the clever people from telling the real truth (John died in a plane crash) from Julia Rothman's version (MI6 killed him). Because if you knew he worked for Scorpia and trained Yassen (at the point Rothman tells Alex) and turned back to the scene at the beginning to read it again (that would be before you finish the book and learn the real truth) you might be able to ... er ... well if he had not written that John died in a mission you would be able to guess the real truth (sorry if this was confusing, hope you understand what I mean Smiley )
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2006, 10:49:47 PM »

Lol no worries, I understand. But even if it was to cover his tracks about the whole 'John Rider working for MI6' sort of thing... he lied. You don't do that in a book. You don't lie. You can laay false trails, etc... but you don't outright lie. I don't think it was deliberate. Also, at the time you didn't know who John Rider was. never mind that he knew Yassen (unless you were one of those people who skips to the end first).
Thus, I refer to my original statement...
PLOTHOLE PLOTHOLE PLOTHOLE!!!
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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2006, 12:00:44 AM »

It's not a plothole.  The first part of the book was written from Yassen's perspective more than any other person's.  And he was told that John Rider died on a mission.  It's not a lie AH is telling us, it's a lie Scorpia has told Yassen

And he did die on a mission...just not one from Scorpia but from MI6
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« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2006, 12:13:49 AM »

Nah doesn't it say that he wasn't in a mission for MI6, he was on holiday? Remember, on the plane... with his wife whom I very much doubt joins him on missions... Also that part was written in third person, switching from Cossack to Hunter sometimes but the part where it was talking about their deaths was clearly third person...
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2006, 06:48:16 AM »

But only few people know how he really died.  the person telling that part might not have known at that moment
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2006, 12:23:39 PM »

... Horowitz was the person telling that part... I'm yet to meet an author who doesn't know his own story...
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2006, 08:57:22 PM »

the writer usually writes through the viewpoint of someone else...not through their own viewpoint, unless it's a narrative.  It's only like at that you find out things together with the main characters.  The Alex Rider movies are mostly writtn from AR's viewpoint, with some exceptions like when blunt and jones are talking.  That part, in my recollection, was more written from the perspective of yassen and ian.  yassen believes now that ian died on a mission, so that's probably why it was put like that in that first part of the book
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 10:17:50 PM »

are you on something? Ian Rider... yassen killed ian Rider... you mean John Rider... right? Please tell me you mean John Rider... yeah but also the way Horowitz wrote that part; he didn't make it very obvious whose POV it was from... there's no way of telling if it was Hunter or Cossack... it sounded as if it were coming from the POV of a 'third person'
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